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Nathan Ketsdever

There is soooo much diversity in this community...

No offense to these writers. Is it necessary for us to hold them up as the paragon of virtue every single time???

Frankly, I'm more interested in people that are innovating in the space much more (from a perspective) or perhaps newer versions of Copyblogger, Problogger, and Seth that are arising.

Making these guys the paragons squelches our diversity and makes life in social media like whitebread. Trite and banal.

Please, give up our sacred cows and our idols.....seriously. Please...for the love of all that this space means and stands for. Please.

>> Copyblogger, Problogger or Seth's Blog.

Clearly I should put down the coffee.

Sonia Simone

Fair enough, although I will say that I do see little typos on a lot of the non-holy-grail blogs, which kind of screws up my example.

It's an interesting point--do we quit reading the big guys because everyone else does? Every one of those blogs I subscribed to the first time I read it, not because I knew (yet) that they were holy grail, but because they were wildly useful.

But let me know what blogs are the new paragons? Who should be wildly influential? Who should we be reading? I've mentioned Chris Brogan and Dosh Dosh in this space, and they're both pretty great, but I will say that neither of them can (yet) speak to the mass audience that Darren, Brian & Seth can.

I do really dig Ittybiz, and I probably should have worked her in there somewhere. Maybe I'll add her to the sense of humor one. Everyone, go read www.ittybiz.com, she's really good.

Caroline Middlebrook

Good stuff, I particularly like number #9, made me laugh!

Timothy Coote

I found your blog (as well as Naomi's at Itty Biz and Shane and Peter's at...well...Shane and Peter's Blog) through having taken a swerve off the beaten track and I am happy to come across stuff which makes me marginally less stupid everytime I visit.

I still read Seth's Blog because it's still interesting not because it's popular. Once it stops being interesting people will leave. This is probably the eleventh commandment on your list.

Good post Sonia.

Nathan Ketsdever

Sorry. I think I've had that under my skin for a bit.

I think those examples are probably great for explaining to clients.

I'm a big Chris Brogan fan. Two blogs in a somewhat related vein are the Web Strategist and Conversation Agent. I think Chris would recommend both as well as other innovators in the space like Beach Walks with Rox.

I think Maki of Dosh Dosh is smart about a lot of things--I think his specialty is his post design and using massive white space on his blog.

I think one move we can take from Darren, is that the video moment is certainly here.

Sonia Simone

D'oh, Tim, you are so right, "Thou Shalt Be Interesting" should have been #1.

Cool, Nathan, thanks I will check those out. I think very highly of Chris as well--he puts out an amazing amount of great stuff.

Sonia Simone

Thanks Caro! And I even added the numbers back in so that 9 and 10 show up. #9 was a little indulgent on my part, but I'll pretty much post anything that makes me laugh.

Thanks, by the way, to all for the Sphinns and Stumbles. I love my readers and I would really like some more of them.

kexbrown

After being a lurker for about a year, in the last three months I have started joining the conversation. These commandments are excellent.

I was actually turned on to commenting on other blogs by Caroline Middlebrook. If you are looking for a new blogger to follow or just some blogging advice, I recommend paying her blog a visit now and again. I promise it won't be a waste of time.

By the way, I was NOT paid to say that. :)

Sonia Simone

I like Caro a lot as well. She's the only "make money online" person I read regularly any more. Her authenticity and humility really stand out against the sea of same-y blogs that promote the same techniques, the same hype, the same affiliate products that are all going to lead to a six-figure income in three weeks.

I have a select number of those that I do read occasionally, as I think there are a few useful points to be picked up here and there, but they're not people I want to be in a conversation with. Caro is.

Welcome to remarcom, I hope you stick around!

Troy

It's not often I find something funny to read on this subject, nice post! I'd say that you can get away with a few mistakes on the other commandments as long as you're solid on #10 :)

Sonia Simone

Troy, I think that's very true!

@Stephen | Productivity in Context

Yah, I unsubscribed to Chrisg.com because he started coasting and writing lame posts. I guess he had other stuff going.
I just started a new full-time job, so what am I going to do? Get up earlier and post. Get more subs. Tell it like it is. Innovate. Iterate. Generate new ideas and run'em up the flagpole.
I am a new media guy in a fourth-generation world looking for the fifth-generation concept.
If you wanna help, hit the forum. Hit me with you best ideas. We'll turn them into a book and a training course.
Ask me about it at SOBCon - I'm going if I have to sleep in the friggin' lobby.

Hey Sonia, do you wanna be a sponsor? Send me an e-mail.

Daily Common Sense

thanks for his good post!

Sheree Motiska

It's such a neat thing to be a part of, the slow painful death of all the crap everyone is so sick of looking at that teaches the Internet generation that the laziest people are the most successful ones.

Social media is becoming like this higher power that had to step in and say, "All right, enough is enough. Time for a good old-fashioned clean up."

I have seen only a couple of salescopy sites pop up claiming to offer the "web 2.0 marketing secrets" and tell you how you can be part of community themed sites, get this, on autopilot!

Too bad that people who care about the integrity of their favorite hangouts quickly put them in their place.

I feel like I've been let out of a cage. I've been wanting to tell these hype-mongers where to shove it for so long but they hid.

When slimy salespeople try to invade places where there are people trying to collaborate intelligently, it is pretty fun to see.

I even had to write a eulogy/parody post to "Dear Mr. Internet Marketing Guru" and bid him farewell.

samantha von x

Hey Sonia, it's Samantha from iggli! It was really great to meet you at GroundFloor Media's event tonight (2/20) and talk with you about Gen Y/X/Boomer issues! I remember you mentioned this post and I really love "Thou Shalt Not Astroturf." Definitely dugg! Feel free to bop on over to my blog, you're also on my rss :)

Sonia Simone

Hey Samantha, really good to see you! Thanks for the Digg. xox

@everybody, Samantha is part of the coolest new blogging community, really a neat project.

Susan Muegge

I work in marketing, and I can't tell you how few people can write anything worth reading, within and without the blogosphere. While copyblogger is a great suggestion, the thing that enables people to write really well about anything is passion. Ask a writer about the Oxford comma--even if they can't write worth crap for their industry, they instantly become animated and interesting. You can read all day, but until you've tapped into something you're passionate about, you'll still be writing boring drivel.

Sonia Simone

That is a very good point, and I think a lot of boring blogs (and other boring writing) come out of people writing what they think they're supposed to write or what they think would make money, instead of what they actually find interesting.

marti garaughty

Hi Sonia, excellent list, in particular "Thou Shalt Not Pontificate About Shit Thou Knowest Nothing About"...

I call it the Cliff Claven syndrome(the know it all mailman from Cheers for those who need a reference).

If I had a dollar for every half baked post I've read, I'd be retired by now. Later...

Todd Jordan

Great set! This is a good and instructive read. I'll definitely be linking back to these.

Nathan Ketsdever

Reading this a couple months later and I think your post is 98-99% spot on. Well done.

See you around.

Matt Hames

I disagree with #3, and think it's where the biggest opportunity might be. Take a look at BMW's Viral idea. They invented a town, invented a guy to make a film about the town. The invented guy has a Facebook page, a Flickr account, a YouTube account. The absurdity is that the town built a ramp to launch BMW cars to America (from Bulgaria).

I liken it to Wrestling. People who watch wrestling know it's fake. But they are entertained. Thus, be entertaining and you can invent characters to tell a story using social media. In my opinion.

Jay Deragon

Love the article and the frankness of the ten points. The old would respond Who do you think you are? And the new would respond "We are The Peoples Congress of Commerce." I said that to a Fortune 500 executive recently and he said "Are people really that interested in media?". Go figure

Sonia Simone

@Matt Hames, that's an interesting point--frank astroturf, if it's entertaining and makes a good story, can be great. But that's different from Walmart creating a blog to follow "real" customers around the country on an RV trip, only to quickly emerge that the whole thing was staged. Godin's argument is that if your audience doesn't get angry when they find out it's just a story, you're in good shape.

@Jay, it fascinates me that in addition to the growing rich/poor gap, there is a major (and not shrinking, as far as I can tell) clued/clueless gap. The patterns are so clear to some and entirely invisible to others.

Brian Yakman

I'm not sure if anyone has pointed this out yet, but ironically, you have a typo on Commandment 8. You say "you never see on one". I believe you mean "you never see one on". Sorry, I'm not trying to be a wise guy. I just thought it was funny, especially given the commandment it was on.

Sonia Simone

Ha, hilarious Brian! Fixed, and thanks.

Cool Springs

Outstanding list! I hope more people become aware of these commandments.

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May this bring you love,peace,respect and success.

John R Carlisle

The world would be a better place if everyone followed these 10 internet commandments. Hopefully our new president will pass a bill making it law that they are posted in every classroom...lol!

John R Carlisle

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